1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,476 Juliet's had her baby. 2 00:00:02,500 --> 00:00:05,346 A girl...In case you were wondering. 3 00:00:05,370 --> 00:00:07,476 At the trial, you'll be cross-examined. 4 00:00:07,500 --> 00:00:08,500 By Mum. 5 00:00:09,130 --> 00:00:10,746 What does Jack say he did to you? 6 00:00:10,770 --> 00:00:12,376 That he raped me. 7 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,570 - And he didn't? - I didn't say no. 8 00:00:16,070 --> 00:00:17,506 You won't be in the witness box. 9 00:00:17,530 --> 00:00:19,206 Does it have to be like that? 10 00:00:19,230 --> 00:00:21,406 It doesn't sound like Ella. 11 00:00:21,430 --> 00:00:22,646 You're 13 years old. 12 00:00:22,670 --> 00:00:23,800 He's my dad. 13 00:00:24,470 --> 00:00:26,176 Six hundred quid in his trouser pocket. 14 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,576 What was he doing with that kind of cash? 15 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,076 I gave it to him. 16 00:00:29,100 --> 00:00:31,276 Baby will go into temporary care. 17 00:00:31,300 --> 00:00:34,206 Oh, there's no way we're taking the baby. 18 00:00:34,230 --> 00:00:36,700 That's too much to ask of my family. 19 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,006 Have you interviewed Juliet's friends? 20 00:00:39,030 --> 00:00:41,006 She hasn't got any. 21 00:00:41,030 --> 00:00:42,076 Doesn't that bother you? 22 00:00:42,100 --> 00:00:43,776 I did it for you. 23 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,406 You know what worries me? 24 00:00:45,430 --> 00:00:47,106 What she'll pull at trial. 25 00:00:47,130 --> 00:00:48,976 Juliet the victim. 26 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,570 If you want to keep your baby... 27 00:00:52,170 --> 00:00:54,500 you need to get off on the murder. 28 00:02:46,770 --> 00:02:49,070 I love you. 29 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,600 Do you know what I'm doing? 30 00:03:02,370 --> 00:03:04,606 I'm writing up the defense statement. 31 00:03:04,630 --> 00:03:06,146 Months late, of course. 32 00:03:06,170 --> 00:03:07,176 Yeah. Well, what's new? 33 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,146 It's taking me a very long time. And do you know why? 34 00:03:10,170 --> 00:03:12,346 Because I've got my jury head on. 35 00:03:12,370 --> 00:03:15,800 And what am I saying in my jury head? 36 00:03:16,430 --> 00:03:19,330 Where's the story, Jack? 37 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,476 How was this woman provoked? For how long? 38 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:23,477 What abuse? 39 00:03:23,501 --> 00:03:24,646 What has he done to her 40 00:03:24,670 --> 00:03:27,046 to cause her to react with so much violence? 41 00:03:27,070 --> 00:03:28,146 She said she was raped. 42 00:03:28,170 --> 00:03:30,676 Yeah, but she hasn't told us anything about it. 43 00:03:30,700 --> 00:03:33,106 She just about says it happened. 44 00:03:33,130 --> 00:03:35,576 Compare that to how clear Jane the grass is on... 45 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,606 On Juliet's admission that it never happened. 46 00:03:37,630 --> 00:03:39,206 - Well, talking about rape is... - Oh, yeah. 47 00:03:39,230 --> 00:03:41,976 Talking about rape, and poor Juliet is off the pace, 48 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,146 and why shouldn't she take all the time in the world 49 00:03:44,170 --> 00:03:45,746 to understand what's happened to her? 50 00:03:45,770 --> 00:03:48,476 And then maybe, when she's ready... 51 00:03:48,500 --> 00:03:49,576 You know, I'll tell you why. 52 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,776 Because there's a week to go. That's why. 53 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,076 She'll get there. I'll get her there. 54 00:03:53,100 --> 00:03:55,576 No. We can't wait anymore. 55 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,006 What have we got? 56 00:03:57,030 --> 00:03:58,176 We can smear Joe a bit 57 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,106 and suggest that Ella is... Is too young 58 00:04:00,130 --> 00:04:02,976 and too traumatized to understand everything properly. 59 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,306 But w-what's a jury gonna say? 60 00:04:04,330 --> 00:04:06,276 The incredibly brave-as-hell child 61 00:04:06,300 --> 00:04:08,476 hasn't actually got it exactly, precisely right. 62 00:04:08,500 --> 00:04:10,706 And yeah, maybe Dad is a little bit odd 'round the edges. 63 00:04:10,730 --> 00:04:12,446 So what, Mum walks? Really? 64 00:04:12,470 --> 00:04:14,176 I think you're oversimplifying things. 65 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,076 And I think you've lost all perspective. 66 00:04:16,100 --> 00:04:17,246 I'm the only one with perspective. 67 00:04:17,270 --> 00:04:18,350 What are you talking about? 68 00:04:19,430 --> 00:04:21,476 You think I'd let my personal feelings 69 00:04:21,500 --> 00:04:23,046 get in the way of my professional thinking? 70 00:04:23,070 --> 00:04:25,246 Yeah. Well, I think you have. 71 00:04:25,270 --> 00:04:29,546 I have to get a jury to see that Juliet Miller absolutely had to, 72 00:04:29,570 --> 00:04:32,646 absolutely had no choice but to do what she did. 73 00:04:32,670 --> 00:04:35,046 And at the moment, the people that I rely on... 74 00:04:35,070 --> 00:04:37,446 The defendant and you as my instructing solicitor... 75 00:04:37,470 --> 00:04:39,770 Aren't giving me enough to do that. 76 00:04:49,230 --> 00:04:50,306 You're frightened. 77 00:04:50,330 --> 00:04:52,600 Yes. I'm terrified. 78 00:04:53,300 --> 00:04:54,446 Do you know why? 79 00:04:54,470 --> 00:04:57,306 Because I believe that Juliet Miller is not guilty of murder, 80 00:04:57,330 --> 00:04:59,006 but I know I can't make a jury see it, 81 00:04:59,030 --> 00:05:01,976 not the way things stand. 82 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,576 An innocent client you can't get off... 83 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,800 It's every barrister's worst nightmare. 84 00:05:07,730 --> 00:05:09,406 Just get me Juliet. 85 00:05:09,430 --> 00:05:13,030 We need a victim, and she has to be talking. 86 00:05:34,430 --> 00:05:36,530 Where did you get that? 87 00:05:39,170 --> 00:05:40,700 Who is it? 88 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,400 What do you mean? 89 00:05:47,570 --> 00:05:49,700 Who is that woman? 90 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,506 It's me. 91 00:05:56,530 --> 00:05:58,070 Mm. 92 00:06:04,070 --> 00:06:07,100 That's the mother I want your baby to have. 93 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,746 You've got a choice now, Juliet. 94 00:06:12,770 --> 00:06:16,170 Talk to me, help me... 95 00:06:16,730 --> 00:06:18,406 tell me about what Joe did to you, 96 00:06:18,430 --> 00:06:19,576 and we've got a fighting chance 97 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,500 of getting you off on the murder. 98 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,276 How long would I get? 99 00:06:26,300 --> 00:06:30,446 You'd be sentenced for manslaughter only. 100 00:06:30,470 --> 00:06:32,530 How long would I get? 101 00:06:33,500 --> 00:06:36,276 I've known a number of cases like yours 102 00:06:36,300 --> 00:06:38,330 where abused women get probation. 103 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,130 Time's up, ladies. 104 00:06:46,330 --> 00:06:51,746 Oh. Um, were you on duty when Angela Spencer killed herself? 105 00:06:51,770 --> 00:06:53,206 Yeah. 106 00:06:53,230 --> 00:06:54,730 Well, what the hell were you doing? 107 00:06:55,630 --> 00:06:58,746 You see, I knew Angela Spencer, and she was funny and smart. 108 00:06:58,770 --> 00:07:00,306 Did you know that? 109 00:07:00,330 --> 00:07:02,046 And she was damaged. 110 00:07:02,070 --> 00:07:05,446 It was staring you in the face, and you weren't looking. 111 00:07:05,470 --> 00:07:08,476 I hold you responsible for her death. 112 00:07:08,500 --> 00:07:10,106 Let's go. 113 00:07:10,130 --> 00:07:11,976 Take your hands off me. 114 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,576 We're gonna calm down and we're gonna leave right now. 115 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,330 Leave her alone. 116 00:07:20,630 --> 00:07:22,276 You get to know about prisoners 117 00:07:22,300 --> 00:07:24,546 and the ones who might not be guilty. 118 00:07:24,570 --> 00:07:26,146 There aren't many. 119 00:07:26,170 --> 00:07:28,170 You're not one of them. 120 00:07:33,030 --> 00:07:35,100 Morning, evening. 121 00:07:35,170 --> 00:07:36,676 Morning, evening. 122 00:07:36,700 --> 00:07:39,170 Before he goes to work, when he gets home from work. 123 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,700 Matching pairs. 124 00:07:42,430 --> 00:07:44,170 What do you notice about them? 125 00:07:44,700 --> 00:07:48,306 Um, nothing changes between morning and evening. 126 00:07:48,330 --> 00:07:52,300 So he knew what she was doing without being there. 127 00:07:54,770 --> 00:07:57,576 Maybe the defense would make something of these. 128 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,270 Do you mean in a good way? 129 00:07:59,770 --> 00:08:01,270 For them? 130 00:08:02,500 --> 00:08:04,630 For the truth. 131 00:08:05,300 --> 00:08:09,070 Let me know what you think, Flo, about serving the photographs. 132 00:08:10,100 --> 00:08:12,100 What is it about this case? 133 00:08:13,730 --> 00:08:17,106 Before I came here, I did five years in the Medway towns 134 00:08:17,130 --> 00:08:19,146 locking up pedophiles. 135 00:08:19,170 --> 00:08:20,606 You knew what you were doing. 136 00:08:20,630 --> 00:08:22,146 Nice and clear, good and evil. 137 00:08:22,170 --> 00:08:24,370 Lock up the bastards, protect the children. 138 00:08:25,330 --> 00:08:26,776 Why did you leave? 139 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,176 A woman. 140 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,606 She was protecting her boyfriend. 141 00:08:31,630 --> 00:08:34,730 He was getting her 5-year-old daughter to jack him off. 142 00:08:35,330 --> 00:08:38,370 I looked into her eyes, and the only thing I saw there was... 143 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,170 defiance. 144 00:08:42,270 --> 00:08:43,800 I slapped her. 145 00:08:44,770 --> 00:08:48,170 I had never hit anyone before, in the job or out. 146 00:08:49,030 --> 00:08:51,306 There was a trial, and she was acquitted 147 00:08:51,330 --> 00:08:53,376 because the jury heard about her mistreatment 148 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:54,406 at the police station 149 00:08:54,430 --> 00:08:56,430 and stopped listening to the evidence. 150 00:08:57,100 --> 00:08:59,100 Is that why you left? 151 00:09:00,370 --> 00:09:02,730 She came to see me afterwards. 152 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,146 She'd been raped repeatedly by her father from the age of 4. 153 00:09:07,170 --> 00:09:08,346 Oh, God. 154 00:09:08,370 --> 00:09:09,506 No. No. 155 00:09:09,530 --> 00:09:12,000 I had heard it all before. It wasn't new to me. 156 00:09:12,470 --> 00:09:16,330 This time, I really... heard it. 157 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,300 And that afternoon, I went down to the river. 158 00:09:21,270 --> 00:09:23,570 And I felt something... 159 00:09:24,230 --> 00:09:25,630 new. 160 00:09:26,430 --> 00:09:28,130 What was it? 161 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,330 Doubt. 162 00:09:33,470 --> 00:09:35,470 Is that a good thing? 163 00:09:36,130 --> 00:09:38,330 I'm hoping it's a good thing. 164 00:09:39,500 --> 00:09:41,406 Just be careful how you talk to her. 165 00:09:41,430 --> 00:09:43,646 - We've agreed to the questions. - I'm talking about tone. 166 00:09:43,670 --> 00:09:45,046 There's no property in a witness. 167 00:09:45,070 --> 00:09:46,606 Just 'cause she's given a witness statement to the police 168 00:09:46,630 --> 00:09:48,746 doesn't stop me from talking to her any way that I like. 169 00:09:48,770 --> 00:09:50,706 It's my job to protect her best interests. 170 00:09:50,730 --> 00:09:52,346 You're a bad judge of character 171 00:09:52,370 --> 00:09:54,646 if you think I'm gonna start bullying a 13-year-old girl. 172 00:09:54,670 --> 00:09:56,176 Did you give the police the same warning? 173 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,046 - That's different. - So tell me. 174 00:09:58,070 --> 00:09:59,546 Is it a good thing for a 13-year-old girl 175 00:09:59,570 --> 00:10:01,406 to give evidence live in a witness box 176 00:10:01,430 --> 00:10:03,176 about the violent death of her father? 177 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,770 Who decided that was in her best interests? 178 00:10:09,270 --> 00:10:11,730 You know, I haven't even told you my name. 179 00:10:12,730 --> 00:10:14,300 It's Jack. 180 00:10:17,570 --> 00:10:19,070 Ella? 181 00:10:24,030 --> 00:10:28,106 Um, your mum took antidepressants. 182 00:10:28,130 --> 00:10:30,600 - Did you know about that? - My dad told me. 183 00:10:31,270 --> 00:10:33,430 How old were you when he told you? 184 00:10:34,530 --> 00:10:36,330 About 10. 185 00:10:37,100 --> 00:10:40,130 Did that make you feel... closer to your dad? 186 00:10:40,630 --> 00:10:42,630 We understood each other. 187 00:10:43,370 --> 00:10:45,106 Is that your phrase? 188 00:10:45,130 --> 00:10:46,146 What do you mean? 189 00:10:46,170 --> 00:10:48,546 I don't know. It just... It just sounds a bit grown-up. 190 00:10:48,570 --> 00:10:51,500 Is that one of your father's expressions? 191 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,330 He said I had to be more like the mum. 192 00:10:57,100 --> 00:10:58,106 And were you? 193 00:10:58,130 --> 00:10:59,430 Yes. 194 00:11:03,230 --> 00:11:06,300 Did you keep secrets from your mum? 195 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,146 She didn't know I was looking out for her. 196 00:11:10,170 --> 00:11:12,646 Is that another of your dad's expressions? 197 00:11:12,670 --> 00:11:14,670 Yes. What are you getting at? 198 00:11:16,770 --> 00:11:19,800 You were like a team, the two of you. 199 00:11:20,470 --> 00:11:22,376 Looking after poor Mum. 200 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,070 He told me what to look out for. 201 00:11:24,570 --> 00:11:26,130 Such as? 202 00:11:27,570 --> 00:11:30,306 Checking who she was phoning and stuff like that. 203 00:11:30,330 --> 00:11:31,700 Why? 204 00:11:33,530 --> 00:11:36,476 When someone is depressed, you have to help them. 205 00:11:36,500 --> 00:11:40,106 And to do that, you have to know everything they're doing, 206 00:11:40,130 --> 00:11:42,730 check who they're phoning and why. 207 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,000 Right. 208 00:11:54,500 --> 00:11:56,330 So, what did he want? 209 00:11:57,700 --> 00:12:00,576 He needed to talk to me about these. 210 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:01,770 What about them? 211 00:12:02,770 --> 00:12:05,746 Dozens of matching pairs. 212 00:12:05,770 --> 00:12:08,406 But these two are the only pair that's different, 213 00:12:08,430 --> 00:12:11,270 and they're taken on the day of the crime. 214 00:12:11,730 --> 00:12:14,346 Okay. 215 00:12:14,370 --> 00:12:16,546 Right. This is your logic. 216 00:12:16,570 --> 00:12:18,276 You ready? 217 00:12:18,300 --> 00:12:19,730 She went to see Dr. Rose. 218 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,076 She came back. She had a shower. 219 00:12:23,100 --> 00:12:25,230 Joe knows she had a shower. 220 00:12:26,370 --> 00:12:29,176 Now where does your logic go? 221 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,276 I'm not talking to you if you're gonna be like this. 222 00:12:31,300 --> 00:12:33,506 So now what? H-He's jealous? Is that it? 223 00:12:33,530 --> 00:12:36,046 He doesn't like his wife going out? 224 00:12:36,070 --> 00:12:38,446 So what does he do? Does he kill his wife? 225 00:12:38,470 --> 00:12:39,407 No. 226 00:12:39,431 --> 00:12:40,446 Oh, look. 227 00:12:40,470 --> 00:12:44,570 She kills... him. 228 00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:49,506 Maybe you're not the right person to ask. 229 00:12:49,530 --> 00:12:52,270 Well, what does that mean? 230 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,430 No, no, no. No, no, no no. What does that mean? 231 00:13:04,470 --> 00:13:05,770 Sorry. 232 00:13:15,770 --> 00:13:17,546 Why don't you leave her alone? 233 00:13:17,570 --> 00:13:19,130 You must be Kate. 234 00:13:19,630 --> 00:13:22,076 Oh, I wish I could, but it's not as easy as that. 235 00:13:22,100 --> 00:13:23,246 Yes, it is. 236 00:13:23,270 --> 00:13:24,406 What do you mean? 237 00:13:24,430 --> 00:13:25,576 She saw her do it. 238 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,200 What else is there to talk about? 239 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,306 Saw who do what? 240 00:13:29,330 --> 00:13:31,170 Her mum stab her dad. 241 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,130 Is that what Ella told you? 242 00:13:42,430 --> 00:13:44,300 Don't want to go back. 243 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,130 You'd rather be here, in prison? 244 00:13:50,370 --> 00:13:53,100 My lawyers say I'd get a minimum of 10 years. 245 00:13:58,030 --> 00:14:00,030 I'm going to lose her. 246 00:14:04,700 --> 00:14:06,070 You love your baby. 247 00:14:10,530 --> 00:14:13,600 So you must do whatever it takes to keep her. 248 00:14:31,170 --> 00:14:32,376 Hello. It's Ella here. 249 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,476 I'm out and about, so I can't take your call, 250 00:14:34,500 --> 00:14:36,800 but please leave a message and I'll call you back. 251 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,276 Hello. It's Ella here. 252 00:14:51,300 --> 00:14:53,246 I'm out and about, so I can't take your call, 253 00:14:53,270 --> 00:14:56,270 but please leave a message and I'll call you back. 254 00:15:11,270 --> 00:15:12,630 Dad? 255 00:15:14,270 --> 00:15:15,770 Dad?! 256 00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:41,470 We served the photographs. 257 00:15:42,630 --> 00:15:44,446 - We? - The CPS. 258 00:15:44,470 --> 00:15:46,506 This morning. 259 00:15:46,530 --> 00:15:48,430 On your advice. 260 00:15:50,100 --> 00:15:52,030 Your wife was helpful. 261 00:15:54,630 --> 00:15:57,106 But they're part of the schedule of unused. 262 00:15:57,130 --> 00:15:59,246 The defense could've spotted it and asked to see them. 263 00:15:59,270 --> 00:16:01,106 Why make it easy for them? 264 00:16:01,130 --> 00:16:04,706 Give everything to the jury. Let them decide. 265 00:16:04,730 --> 00:16:06,130 No. 266 00:16:06,570 --> 00:16:08,706 No. That's not it. 267 00:16:08,730 --> 00:16:12,046 We fight for a conviction, they fight for an acquittal. 268 00:16:12,070 --> 00:16:13,076 No quarter given. 269 00:16:13,100 --> 00:16:15,346 Then a jury decides, which is a completely different thing. 270 00:16:15,370 --> 00:16:16,347 Is it? 271 00:16:16,371 --> 00:16:18,730 Everyone on both sides has to fight properly. 272 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,176 I mean, you go off the rails, you start going after the truth, 273 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,146 the whole thing's destabilized. 274 00:16:24,170 --> 00:16:29,776 Being certain like this, nailing suspects... 275 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,576 We are not prosecutors. 276 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:32,606 So then what? 277 00:16:32,630 --> 00:16:34,506 W-We pussyfoot around, do we? And then what? 278 00:16:34,530 --> 00:16:36,976 Things are hardly ever black and white. 279 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,446 The system wants it to be that way 280 00:16:38,470 --> 00:16:40,146 because they're desperate for answers. 281 00:16:40,170 --> 00:16:43,000 Guilty or not guilty? Good or evil? 282 00:16:44,030 --> 00:16:45,230 The truth is... 283 00:16:47,130 --> 00:16:48,570 gray. 284 00:16:49,630 --> 00:16:51,546 It's all gray. 285 00:16:51,570 --> 00:16:54,546 You have to sign up for the system or you're lost. 286 00:16:54,570 --> 00:16:57,076 It's a fight or it doesn't work. 287 00:16:57,100 --> 00:16:58,306 Anything else is playing God. 288 00:16:58,330 --> 00:17:01,070 You want that? You go live in France. 289 00:17:04,330 --> 00:17:06,706 I made lots of mistakes. 290 00:17:06,730 --> 00:17:12,370 I-I left water boiling, baths running, the gas on. 291 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:16,176 I needed looking after. 292 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,330 He made me feel safe. 293 00:17:19,570 --> 00:17:21,406 There's all the difference in the world 294 00:17:21,430 --> 00:17:24,430 between care and control. 295 00:17:25,170 --> 00:17:27,030 They feel the same. 296 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,076 People looking from the outside may mistake one for the other, 297 00:17:31,100 --> 00:17:33,476 but that is the trick. 298 00:17:33,500 --> 00:17:35,346 That's what abusers do. 299 00:17:35,370 --> 00:17:37,006 He had to check all the time 300 00:17:37,030 --> 00:17:39,346 I was doing what I was supposed to do. 301 00:17:39,370 --> 00:17:41,006 What were you supposed to do? 302 00:17:41,030 --> 00:17:45,506 Uh, take my medication, um, washing... 303 00:17:45,530 --> 00:17:48,076 Is that what you think these photographs were for? 304 00:17:48,100 --> 00:17:50,676 He rang whenever he could. 305 00:17:50,700 --> 00:17:52,346 He even used to text me from court. 306 00:17:52,370 --> 00:17:54,630 I mean, can you imagine if the judge... 307 00:17:55,630 --> 00:17:58,070 See, that's how much he... 308 00:17:58,500 --> 00:18:00,176 Cared for you? 309 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,230 Huh? 310 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,546 And these were taken 311 00:18:05,570 --> 00:18:07,676 morning and evening on the day it all happened. 312 00:18:07,700 --> 00:18:10,330 What do these two pictures tell us? 313 00:18:13,530 --> 00:18:15,030 I don't know. 314 00:18:16,470 --> 00:18:18,070 Right. 315 00:18:19,670 --> 00:18:21,200 What do they tell Joe? 316 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:25,570 Well, that the lid's off on the bottle. 317 00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:27,670 Why? 318 00:18:30,770 --> 00:18:33,070 I didn't put it back on. 319 00:18:34,070 --> 00:18:35,706 I should have. 320 00:18:35,730 --> 00:18:40,476 You... should have put the lid back on the shampoo bottle? 321 00:18:40,500 --> 00:18:42,206 So Joe wouldn't see it? 322 00:18:42,230 --> 00:18:45,246 What, is he against lids being off? 323 00:18:45,270 --> 00:18:46,247 - No. - Well, what then? 324 00:18:46,271 --> 00:18:47,606 Daytime showers? 325 00:18:47,630 --> 00:18:51,700 God forbid he should find out that you had a shower. 326 00:18:54,770 --> 00:18:57,730 Care or control? 327 00:18:59,170 --> 00:19:00,730 Juliet. 328 00:19:10,370 --> 00:19:13,076 I went to see Ella. 329 00:19:13,100 --> 00:19:14,047 Why? 330 00:19:14,071 --> 00:19:15,606 Why do you think? 331 00:19:15,630 --> 00:19:16,700 Hmm? 332 00:19:18,030 --> 00:19:20,570 Ella had to help Joe. 333 00:19:22,030 --> 00:19:25,170 I saw the way she looked at him, and I knew they... 334 00:19:26,570 --> 00:19:28,400 And what did I do? 335 00:19:29,530 --> 00:19:32,200 What's wrong with me? 336 00:19:36,370 --> 00:19:38,000 Nothing. 337 00:19:40,630 --> 00:19:44,446 You were sexually and emotionally abused 338 00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:49,400 by a man who had complete control of your whole existence. 339 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,246 Is that a question? 340 00:19:59,270 --> 00:20:02,230 Yes, it is. 341 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,800 What's the answer? 342 00:20:13,630 --> 00:20:16,730 It's okay to say yes. 343 00:20:17,330 --> 00:20:19,330 I promise. 344 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:22,600 Yes. 345 00:20:39,270 --> 00:20:40,746 You didn't tell me you were helping the boss 346 00:20:40,770 --> 00:20:42,646 make up his mind about serving the photographs. 347 00:20:42,670 --> 00:20:43,676 Didn't I? 348 00:20:43,700 --> 00:20:45,346 What's he thinking of? You're a D.S. 349 00:20:45,370 --> 00:20:47,346 He's the boss, for God's sake. 350 00:20:47,370 --> 00:20:48,646 Maybe he's after the truth. 351 00:20:48,670 --> 00:20:49,706 Mm. Why? 352 00:20:49,730 --> 00:20:51,146 I don't know, Chris. 353 00:20:51,170 --> 00:20:54,676 How about as a basis for living your life? 354 00:20:54,700 --> 00:20:57,676 Okay. Just remember what she did. 355 00:20:57,700 --> 00:21:00,400 You know, sometimes we get lost in the detail. 356 00:21:01,630 --> 00:21:03,346 What does it feel like 357 00:21:03,370 --> 00:21:05,800 doing what she did to another human being? 358 00:21:06,730 --> 00:21:11,100 What would I have to do to make you stick a knife in me, eh? 359 00:21:11,530 --> 00:21:12,706 What would that actually be, Flo? 360 00:21:12,730 --> 00:21:14,706 Stop bloody eating, can you? 361 00:21:14,730 --> 00:21:16,300 The photographs. 362 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,376 I don't like them. 363 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,070 They scare the hell out of me. 364 00:21:20,570 --> 00:21:23,376 Trussler, come here. 365 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,776 Top five in the Premiership last season. 366 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,776 Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Everton. 367 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,276 How many points did United finish with? 368 00:21:30,300 --> 00:21:31,107 Ninety. 369 00:21:31,131 --> 00:21:32,406 - Have you got a girlfriend? - Yeah. 370 00:21:32,430 --> 00:21:34,300 - Do you beat her up? - No. 371 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,046 No, you don't. 372 00:21:37,070 --> 00:21:38,976 He doesn't. 373 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,246 See, men are anoraks. 374 00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:44,046 Being an anorak doesn't make you a monster. 375 00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:47,270 The fingerprints on the 20 from the drug dealer. 376 00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,746 You understand what I'm saying? 377 00:21:59,770 --> 00:22:00,776 Yes, I do. 378 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,776 This has to be true, what you're telling me now. 379 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,246 I have to have that from you, 100%. 380 00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:08,046 Joe Miller had nothing to do with drugs. 381 00:22:08,070 --> 00:22:09,406 The money? 382 00:22:09,430 --> 00:22:10,706 I gave it to him. 383 00:22:10,730 --> 00:22:13,476 It came from a hole in the wall the lunchtime before. 384 00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:15,646 You can't lie to me on this. 385 00:22:15,670 --> 00:22:17,406 You know what I'm saying. 386 00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:20,770 On my goddaughter's life, I gave him the £600. 387 00:22:21,430 --> 00:22:23,670 And there's £620 in all. 388 00:22:24,530 --> 00:22:26,370 That's all I know. 389 00:22:35,300 --> 00:22:37,176 Hey, listen. I told you I'm not the man. 390 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,330 - Bullshit. - I'm just a younger. 391 00:22:40,570 --> 00:22:42,800 Let's be very crystal clear about this, shall we? 392 00:22:43,730 --> 00:22:46,146 You're in three months of surveillance logs. 393 00:22:46,170 --> 00:22:48,246 Drugs squad know about every breath you take. 394 00:22:48,270 --> 00:22:50,306 - I swear to you... - Now, do you know what? 395 00:22:50,330 --> 00:22:51,476 I don't care. 396 00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:52,746 What? 397 00:22:52,770 --> 00:22:54,976 You give me the answers I want, 398 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,330 I don't care if you're the man or if you're nothing. 399 00:23:00,370 --> 00:23:02,176 Running man. 400 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,006 Eh? 401 00:23:03,030 --> 00:23:04,007 Get off me, man! 402 00:23:04,031 --> 00:23:06,006 The money. The running man on the canal. 403 00:23:06,030 --> 00:23:08,246 Don't piss me about. Is he in this or is he not? 404 00:23:08,270 --> 00:23:09,077 No, man! 405 00:23:09,101 --> 00:23:12,076 So why does he have your money in his trouser pocket? 406 00:23:12,100 --> 00:23:14,100 I sponsored him. 407 00:23:15,300 --> 00:23:16,976 You sponsored him? 408 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,600 For the marathon. 409 00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:21,076 I felt like I knew him, innit? 410 00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:23,430 He used to run past most days. 411 00:23:28,270 --> 00:23:29,800 What's funny, man? 412 00:23:30,770 --> 00:23:34,200 Oh, that has to be true. That just has to be true. 413 00:23:35,030 --> 00:23:36,406 How much? 414 00:23:36,430 --> 00:23:37,600 Twenty. 415 00:23:39,170 --> 00:23:40,600 Good boy. 416 00:23:41,300 --> 00:23:43,630 So... So what are you gonna do with me? 417 00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:41,300 Are you okay? 418 00:24:51,070 --> 00:24:52,206 Are you cold? 419 00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:53,470 No. 420 00:24:57,230 --> 00:24:59,730 I've been thinking about your sister. 421 00:25:01,570 --> 00:25:03,570 He'll never see her. 422 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,500 No. 423 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,346 I don't believe in God, 424 00:25:11,370 --> 00:25:16,170 so I can't believe in any kind of life after death. 425 00:25:17,470 --> 00:25:21,006 But I do believe that we live on in some way 426 00:25:21,030 --> 00:25:23,030 through our children. 427 00:25:24,370 --> 00:25:26,700 I mean, Joe is in you, isn't he? 428 00:25:27,300 --> 00:25:29,130 He's part of you. 429 00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:33,570 And he'll be there in your new baby sister, too. 430 00:25:34,170 --> 00:25:35,470 Won't he? 431 00:25:46,370 --> 00:25:47,776 "RM"? 432 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,346 Stands for Running Man. 433 00:25:49,370 --> 00:25:51,076 That's, uh, Joe. 434 00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:53,446 He's there almost every day. 435 00:25:53,470 --> 00:25:55,130 Oh, my God. 436 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,576 Well done, sir. 437 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:58,630 Oh, thanks. 438 00:26:20,530 --> 00:26:22,076 We shouldn't have done that. 439 00:26:22,100 --> 00:26:24,576 What? Sat on a sofa and watched a film? 440 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,446 Well, it's a bit happy families. 441 00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:28,376 - We are a happy family. - Shh. 442 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,576 No! Why should I?! 443 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,430 For goodness' sake, Dom! 444 00:26:34,130 --> 00:26:37,376 Do you know what I think? He was much too good to be true. 445 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,276 He was a zealot, wasn't he? 446 00:26:39,300 --> 00:26:41,276 He prosecuted people with such passion. 447 00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:42,306 What the hell is that? 448 00:26:42,330 --> 00:26:45,306 And we'd sit around and laugh at all their rubbish defenses. 449 00:26:45,330 --> 00:26:47,206 - Don't you think that's... - She might hear you. 450 00:26:47,230 --> 00:26:51,276 I will not be silent in my own house! 451 00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:52,606 You're like a mouse! 452 00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:55,346 What's the matter with you, Dom? Tiptoeing around everything! 453 00:26:55,370 --> 00:26:56,576 I'm just trying to be careful. 454 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,076 They did it to themselves! 455 00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:00,406 I will not have it destroying us! 456 00:27:00,430 --> 00:27:03,206 We didn't kill anyone! 457 00:27:03,230 --> 00:27:05,676 Norma, it's me. 458 00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:07,630 I want to see my sister. 459 00:28:13,030 --> 00:28:14,600 Do you want to hold her? 460 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,030 Is she okay? 461 00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:19,100 Yes. 462 00:28:19,170 --> 00:28:20,770 Yes. 463 00:28:33,370 --> 00:28:35,146 We've got a lovely room. 464 00:28:35,170 --> 00:28:38,146 It's... It's just the two of us. 465 00:28:38,170 --> 00:28:40,030 You'd really like it. 466 00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:43,276 Do they check on you? 467 00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:44,676 What do you mean? 468 00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:46,506 During the night, do the prison officers check? 469 00:28:46,530 --> 00:28:48,176 I-I don't need that kind... 470 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,476 - I meant the baby. - Ella. 471 00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:52,800 The judge said you were a risk. 472 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,670 Listen to me. 473 00:28:57,470 --> 00:29:00,330 There are reasons for what I did. 474 00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:03,100 There are reasons. 475 00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:09,646 But at the same time, I am very, very sorry. 476 00:29:09,670 --> 00:29:11,500 What reasons? 477 00:29:13,470 --> 00:29:15,670 I miss him so much. 478 00:29:16,300 --> 00:29:17,576 Just like you do. 479 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,400 What reasons? 480 00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:23,430 Why did you kill Dad? 481 00:29:30,370 --> 00:29:34,070 I've, um, I've thought of a name for her. 482 00:29:35,270 --> 00:29:36,670 Jo. 483 00:29:37,470 --> 00:29:38,800 What do you think? 484 00:30:12,030 --> 00:30:13,300 Juliet! 485 00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:20,006 I have to call my solicitor, Jack. 486 00:30:20,030 --> 00:30:22,106 Juliet, you need to calm down. 487 00:30:22,130 --> 00:30:23,476 I have to call her. 488 00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:25,430 I have to. Please. 489 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,570 Roll over, baby. 490 00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:09,270 Roll over for me. 491 00:32:26,670 --> 00:32:29,330 It wasn't my fault. 492 00:32:31,330 --> 00:32:32,670 No. 493 00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:40,670 It was him. 494 00:32:43,530 --> 00:32:45,370 Yes. 495 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,070 What's happened to you since we last met? 496 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,630 I saw Ella. 497 00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:02,500 She doesn't understand. 498 00:33:06,430 --> 00:33:08,730 I want her to know. 499 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,170 Okay. 500 00:33:15,430 --> 00:33:17,276 There are consequences 501 00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:20,570 to signing up provocation as a defense. 502 00:33:21,470 --> 00:33:23,230 Joe isn't here. 503 00:33:23,730 --> 00:33:26,146 We can't put it to him in the witness box 504 00:33:26,170 --> 00:33:27,776 that he was abusive. 505 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,130 So it has to be established... 506 00:33:30,730 --> 00:33:34,400 by cross-examining other witnesses. 507 00:33:35,370 --> 00:33:36,670 Who? 508 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,770 Those people who knew Joe. 509 00:33:40,730 --> 00:33:42,330 Who? 510 00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:57,346 Ask anything you want. Don't be intimidated. 511 00:33:57,370 --> 00:33:59,376 We just want you to be familiar with everything 512 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,270 so it's not strange when you're here for the trial. 513 00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:12,170 Horsehair. 514 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,430 Do you want to feel it? 515 00:34:18,130 --> 00:34:21,676 When I was at the bar, I had a second-hand wig. 516 00:34:21,700 --> 00:34:24,706 Made around the 1750s. 517 00:34:24,730 --> 00:34:26,800 What do you make of that? 518 00:34:28,130 --> 00:34:30,070 Did you meet my dad? 519 00:34:35,130 --> 00:34:36,706 Yes. 520 00:34:36,730 --> 00:34:38,270 Many times. 521 00:34:38,770 --> 00:34:40,330 Was he good at his job? 522 00:34:42,270 --> 00:34:45,606 You'll understand if I can't really speak about him. 523 00:34:45,630 --> 00:34:47,006 It wouldn't be fair. 524 00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:48,800 - On who? - Everyone. 525 00:34:50,130 --> 00:34:52,570 I haven't told Ella about screens in court. 526 00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:56,146 There's a screen we use 527 00:34:56,170 --> 00:34:58,606 so that when you're in the witness box 528 00:34:58,630 --> 00:35:03,476 only the jury and the lawyers and me will be able to see you. 529 00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:05,570 I don't want it like that. 530 00:35:06,430 --> 00:35:08,146 I want it as it always is. 531 00:35:08,170 --> 00:35:10,770 I want everyone to know everything. 532 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,370 Do you like fish? 533 00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:30,176 Mum used to bring me here. 534 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,176 When? 535 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,370 Before she was depressed. 536 00:35:37,070 --> 00:35:40,100 Imagine the dandruff in a 300-year-old wig. 537 00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:43,146 Dad used to put talcum powder on his. 538 00:35:43,170 --> 00:35:45,176 Do you think they're itchy? 539 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,470 Horsehair must be scratchy. 540 00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:53,500 Do you like fish? 541 00:35:57,170 --> 00:35:59,246 Why don't you go and play on the swings, Ella? 542 00:35:59,270 --> 00:36:01,176 So you can talk about me? 543 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,400 Yeah. 544 00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:13,506 I had a child recently who gave himself a brand-new name. 545 00:36:13,530 --> 00:36:16,406 VTM. Know what that stands for? 546 00:36:16,430 --> 00:36:17,377 Mnh-mnh. 547 00:36:17,401 --> 00:36:18,476 Nothing. 548 00:36:18,500 --> 00:36:20,646 It's an acronym that doesn't stand for anything. 549 00:36:20,670 --> 00:36:23,106 He's heard so many, he thinks he should have one for himself. 550 00:36:23,130 --> 00:36:24,506 What's his real name? 551 00:36:24,530 --> 00:36:26,746 - Stamford Bridge. - That's his name? 552 00:36:26,770 --> 00:36:28,276 His big brother is called Wayne. 553 00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:29,470 Oh. 554 00:36:31,170 --> 00:36:33,300 I don't think you should speak to her again. 555 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,446 Difficult visit with Mum. 556 00:36:35,470 --> 00:36:37,146 I thought it was a great visit. 557 00:36:37,170 --> 00:36:39,146 I was there. It was not a great visit. 558 00:36:39,170 --> 00:36:41,246 It opened Mum right up. 559 00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:42,730 Well done, Ella. 560 00:36:46,670 --> 00:36:49,176 We're probably after the same thing, you and me. 561 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,006 What's that? 562 00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:53,206 Mother and daughter together. 563 00:36:53,230 --> 00:36:54,630 Am I right? 564 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:07,530 I, uh, told the CPS about the drugs surveillance logs. 565 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,170 What did you say? 566 00:37:13,370 --> 00:37:15,046 I just told them how important it was 567 00:37:15,070 --> 00:37:17,606 that the defense get disclosure right now. 568 00:37:17,630 --> 00:37:19,000 Right. 569 00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:21,670 Good. 570 00:37:23,330 --> 00:37:25,530 Well, you know how slow they can be. 571 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,230 I don't want us being criticized. 572 00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:37,346 Have a look at this. 573 00:37:37,370 --> 00:37:39,206 "RM" is Joe Miller. 574 00:37:39,230 --> 00:37:40,177 Right. 575 00:37:40,201 --> 00:37:42,246 Well, you are now in a position to tell the jury 576 00:37:42,270 --> 00:37:44,346 that squeaky-clean Joe Miller 577 00:37:44,370 --> 00:37:47,676 takes money from drug dealers on canal towpaths. 578 00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:50,106 Right. Proving what? 579 00:37:50,130 --> 00:37:51,706 I'm not against slinging mud about. 580 00:37:51,730 --> 00:37:52,707 God knows I've done it. 581 00:37:52,731 --> 00:37:55,376 And with a jury at Snaresbrook in some knockabout trial, 582 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,646 you get off if you make a copper look the tiniest bit muddy, 583 00:37:57,670 --> 00:37:58,647 bugger the evidence. 584 00:37:58,671 --> 00:38:00,046 But this is very different. 585 00:38:00,070 --> 00:38:01,506 It's very good mud. 586 00:38:01,530 --> 00:38:03,406 Yes, it's very good mud. 587 00:38:03,430 --> 00:38:05,576 But at 10:00 tomorrow morning, this trial starts. 588 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:06,776 - And do you know how I feel? - No. 589 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,546 Like I'm going in there naked with a mud pie in each hand. 590 00:38:09,570 --> 00:38:11,546 Blimey. 591 00:38:11,570 --> 00:38:13,176 - Wig on or off? - Wig on! 592 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,346 Nothing else. 593 00:38:15,370 --> 00:38:18,506 "How did it feel to be raped by your husband?" 594 00:38:18,530 --> 00:38:20,076 "What were your precise feelings 595 00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:22,406 as you were walking up those stairs carrying that knife?" 596 00:38:22,430 --> 00:38:24,346 "What were you doing leaving your daughter 597 00:38:24,370 --> 00:38:26,346 to deal with all the blood and horror of what you'd done?" 598 00:38:26,370 --> 00:38:29,030 And the one that really counts. 599 00:38:29,470 --> 00:38:30,600 "Why?" 600 00:38:34,170 --> 00:38:35,776 Where are you going? 601 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,530 Night of the crime. 602 00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:57,546 You've got a good chance with this one. 603 00:39:57,570 --> 00:39:59,170 You know that? 604 00:40:00,070 --> 00:40:03,346 Most women who come through here... not a prayer. 605 00:40:03,370 --> 00:40:05,606 You need a bit of luck with your jury. 606 00:40:05,630 --> 00:40:08,176 Women won't buy it with provocation. 607 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,506 "Why didn't she walk away? I would've." 608 00:40:11,530 --> 00:40:16,100 You need lots of men... Preferably ones that fancy you. 609 00:40:16,530 --> 00:40:18,400 You look great. 610 00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:20,630 Thank you. 611 00:40:47,030 --> 00:40:48,306 Morning. 612 00:40:48,330 --> 00:40:51,546 Oh, uh, there's CCTV footage. 613 00:40:51,570 --> 00:40:53,606 I haven't seen any. 614 00:40:53,630 --> 00:40:55,706 Her street, the hospital, points in between. 615 00:40:55,730 --> 00:40:57,570 Can you get it for me? 616 00:41:01,770 --> 00:41:06,506 I find the way you lot suspend personal judgment really moving. 617 00:41:06,530 --> 00:41:09,346 Cab-rank rule really moves me. 618 00:41:09,370 --> 00:41:10,646 What other profession is there 619 00:41:10,670 --> 00:41:13,446 where you could take a job to throw a bucketload of shit 620 00:41:13,470 --> 00:41:15,346 at another member of the same profession 621 00:41:15,370 --> 00:41:18,306 who is very recently deceased and not blink an eye 622 00:41:18,330 --> 00:41:20,246 and no one even criticize you for it? 623 00:41:20,270 --> 00:41:22,046 That's amazing. 624 00:41:22,070 --> 00:41:24,400 Tell your solicitor to keep away from my goddaughter. 625 00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:29,246 What do you want? 626 00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:32,046 Do your clerks give you the heavy work 627 00:41:32,070 --> 00:41:34,500 as well as the rapes and the girly stuff? 628 00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:36,776 Sorry? 629 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,576 Put it this way. 630 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,306 Would they have put you up for this 631 00:41:40,330 --> 00:41:41,476 if it had been down to them? 632 00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:43,330 You don't intimidate me. 633 00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:47,300 The answer is no, then. 634 00:41:57,470 --> 00:41:59,276 Uh-oh. You can't look like this. 635 00:41:59,300 --> 00:42:00,606 Why not? 636 00:42:00,630 --> 00:42:03,430 Um, the jury will read you wrong. 637 00:42:04,030 --> 00:42:06,670 It's not how they expect a victim to look. 638 00:42:07,330 --> 00:42:10,106 Does Ella have to give evidence? 639 00:42:10,130 --> 00:42:11,306 What do you mean? 640 00:42:11,330 --> 00:42:13,206 W-Well, I heard from someone in the prison 641 00:42:13,230 --> 00:42:14,476 that sometimes witness statements 642 00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:16,276 are just read out to the jury. 643 00:42:16,300 --> 00:42:19,106 That's only if we agree with everything she's saying. 644 00:42:19,130 --> 00:42:20,500 And don't we? 645 00:42:22,370 --> 00:42:26,176 Let's wait and hear what she says in her evidence in chief, 646 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,170 and then we can decide what to do next, hmm? 647 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,546 Or rather you can. 648 00:42:31,570 --> 00:42:33,330 It'll be up to me? 649 00:42:34,430 --> 00:42:36,230 It'll be up to you. 650 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,406 I had a judge once. 651 00:42:40,430 --> 00:42:44,276 He wanted me to sing "Jerusalem" and piss in his mouth. 652 00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:45,376 I don't know the words, 653 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,176 so I sang the national anthem instead. 654 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,706 He didn't mind. 655 00:42:49,730 --> 00:42:51,500 He was fine with it. 656 00:42:55,300 --> 00:42:56,700 Thank you. 657 00:43:09,570 --> 00:43:11,676 Is she all right? 658 00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:15,476 Just remember... She's not like any other client. 659 00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:17,700 Abused women are different. 660 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,546 Juliet Miller. 661 00:43:20,570 --> 00:43:21,447 Nick. 662 00:43:21,471 --> 00:43:22,576 Also known as the bitch 663 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,500 who murdered the second-best prosecutor at the criminal bar. 664 00:43:27,100 --> 00:43:30,346 What would you take? Just out of interest. 665 00:43:30,370 --> 00:43:33,146 Plead to the murder and I'll take my steel toe caps off 666 00:43:33,170 --> 00:43:34,776 before opening it to the judge. 667 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,646 - Cold feet? - No. 668 00:43:36,670 --> 00:43:37,746 So it's a fight, then. 669 00:43:37,770 --> 00:43:39,406 - Looks like it. - I'm so glad. 670 00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:41,006 I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward 671 00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:43,976 to cross-examining Frau chilly knickers. 672 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,076 Uh, when did you get silk? 673 00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:48,346 Last year. 674 00:43:48,370 --> 00:43:49,376 Oh. 675 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,470 Youngest ever, weren't you? 676 00:45:27,570 --> 00:45:30,030 9-3. You're in trouble. 677 00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:38,170 All rise. 678 00:45:53,030 --> 00:45:55,400 Where's your junior, Ms. Klein? 679 00:45:56,300 --> 00:45:57,606 Here, my lord. 680 00:45:57,630 --> 00:45:59,006 You're the solicitor. 681 00:45:59,030 --> 00:46:01,046 With my HRA. 682 00:46:01,070 --> 00:46:03,106 This is a murder trial. 683 00:46:03,130 --> 00:46:06,646 The whole point of a junior is that they're able to step in 684 00:46:06,670 --> 00:46:08,676 and take over should the need arise. 685 00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:12,106 I can assure you, my lord, and the jury, 686 00:46:12,130 --> 00:46:14,770 I'm here because I know what I'm talking about. 687 00:46:27,300 --> 00:46:29,500 About 10 minutes, we think. 688 00:46:40,730 --> 00:46:43,046 Is anyone there? Just pick up the phone. 689 00:46:43,070 --> 00:46:44,376 Daddy! 690 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,176 There's a knife in him. He's bleeding. 691 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,576 I'll be able to help. 692 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,676 Hello? Are you still there? 693 00:46:51,700 --> 00:46:53,270 Hello? 694 00:46:55,170 --> 00:46:58,046 Hello? Mad... 695 00:46:58,070 --> 00:46:59,300 Hello? 696 00:47:00,630 --> 00:47:02,230 Madam? 697 00:47:03,230 --> 00:47:06,006 Whatever you do, don't pull the knife out. 698 00:47:06,030 --> 00:47:07,606 Sorry! Sorry! I took it out! 699 00:47:07,630 --> 00:47:09,606 - I took it out. - It's okay. 700 00:47:09,630 --> 00:47:12,446 I want you to apply firm and even pressure to the wound. 701 00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:14,446 - Please! - It's okay. 702 00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:17,146 Help is on its way. That's fantastic. 703 00:47:17,170 --> 00:47:20,306 You're doing really, really well. 704 00:47:20,330 --> 00:47:22,446 Don't move him. 705 00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:25,006 Just keep that pressure on. 706 00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:27,676 Daddy. Daddy. 707 00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:29,270 Please. Please. 708 00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:32,576 Come on, Daddy. 709 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,046 Please, Daddy. Come on. Come on. 710 00:47:35,070 --> 00:47:36,170 Daddy. 711 00:47:50,300 --> 00:47:52,376 This is the knife that Juliet Miller used 712 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,030 to murder her husband. 713 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,176 The knife that Ella Miller pulled 714 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,130 from her own father's abdomen. 715 00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:03,406 The defendant doesn't deny 716 00:48:03,430 --> 00:48:07,000 that she stabbed her husband with this knife. 717 00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:08,646 She will seek to persuade you 718 00:48:08,670 --> 00:48:11,306 that Joe Miller provoked her into killing him. 719 00:48:11,330 --> 00:48:14,106 You will hear evidence from the prosecution 720 00:48:14,130 --> 00:48:18,406 which will establish that this defense is a sham, 721 00:48:18,430 --> 00:48:22,506 that this woman on this night murdered this man 722 00:48:22,530 --> 00:48:26,600 with a clear mind and an evil intent. 723 00:48:28,130 --> 00:48:30,606 Some of the evidence you're going to hear is disturbing. 724 00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:32,106 Some of it is very distressing. 725 00:48:32,130 --> 00:48:38,230 So I must ask you to please... please remember. 726 00:48:38,730 --> 00:48:40,406 It's the evidence that matters 727 00:48:40,430 --> 00:48:43,630 and not how emotional it makes any of us feel. 728 00:48:44,300 --> 00:48:45,476 Use your common sense. 729 00:48:45,500 --> 00:48:46,477 And when you do that, 730 00:48:46,501 --> 00:48:49,670 there's only one verdict you can properly return. 731 00:48:51,530 --> 00:48:54,030 Guilty as charged. 732 00:48:55,630 --> 00:48:58,170 I'll call Ella Miller. 733 00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:10,500 Put your hand on the Bible and read this. 734 00:49:11,500 --> 00:49:15,606 "I swear by almighty God that I will tell the truth, 735 00:49:15,630 --> 00:49:18,500 the whole truth, and nothing but the truth." 736 00:49:23,300 --> 00:49:25,170 It was dark. 737 00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:27,406 I couldn't see very much. 738 00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:29,330 They were making... 739 00:49:31,130 --> 00:49:33,046 funny noises. 740 00:49:33,070 --> 00:49:35,630 Can you tell me what sort of noises? 741 00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:40,370 Any actual words, Ella? 742 00:49:41,170 --> 00:49:43,006 Yes. 743 00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:44,570 Whose? 744 00:49:45,500 --> 00:49:47,476 My dad's. 745 00:49:47,500 --> 00:49:49,330 What did he say? 746 00:49:52,070 --> 00:49:53,530 He said, "I love you." 747 00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:56,246 And how can you be so sure of this? 748 00:49:56,270 --> 00:49:57,746 I'm sure. 749 00:49:57,770 --> 00:49:59,530 Why? 750 00:50:01,470 --> 00:50:04,700 'Cause it was the last thing I ever heard Daddy say. 751 00:50:12,030 --> 00:50:14,370 What did you do next? 752 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,070 I went into... 753 00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:22,476 Do you want to stop for a minute? 754 00:50:22,500 --> 00:50:24,476 Right. 755 00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:26,470 I did the wrong thing. 756 00:50:27,070 --> 00:50:29,246 Well, you were incredibly brave, 757 00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:30,676 and you did everything you could. 758 00:50:30,700 --> 00:50:32,700 I pulled the knife out. 759 00:50:34,730 --> 00:50:38,030 He would've been alive if I hadn't, wouldn't he? 760 00:50:45,500 --> 00:50:47,776 Dad tried to make everything easy for her. 761 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,200 How? 762 00:50:50,170 --> 00:50:53,100 By making sure she knew what she had to do every day. 763 00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:56,306 Was he ever angry with her? 764 00:50:56,330 --> 00:50:57,307 Never. 765 00:50:57,331 --> 00:50:58,776 Did he shout at her? 766 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,246 No. 767 00:51:00,270 --> 00:51:01,746 Did he ever hit your mother? 768 00:51:01,770 --> 00:51:03,106 No. 769 00:51:03,130 --> 00:51:05,676 Did he ever threaten to hit your mother? 770 00:51:05,700 --> 00:51:07,100 No. 771 00:51:09,300 --> 00:51:13,270 Have you spoken to your mother since the night of March 9th? 772 00:51:17,530 --> 00:51:19,976 She said she did it for me. 773 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,330 How does that make you feel? 774 00:51:24,430 --> 00:51:26,400 Like I'm dying. 775 00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:33,106 Did he say, "I love you"? 776 00:51:33,130 --> 00:51:34,800 Is Ella wrong? 777 00:51:36,430 --> 00:51:38,446 She's not lying. 778 00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:39,976 No. 779 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,476 No, she thinks she's telling the truth, 780 00:51:42,500 --> 00:51:46,706 which might be why she says she saw you stab Joe 781 00:51:46,730 --> 00:51:48,106 when she didn't. 782 00:51:48,130 --> 00:51:49,576 But she didn't say that. 783 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,276 She didn't say it in court. 784 00:51:52,300 --> 00:51:55,006 But she told Kate exactly that. 785 00:51:55,030 --> 00:51:56,730 Kate told me. 786 00:51:57,330 --> 00:51:59,306 So what do... S-Sorry. 787 00:51:59,330 --> 00:52:01,230 I don't understand. 788 00:52:01,670 --> 00:52:02,607 Sorry. 789 00:52:02,631 --> 00:52:06,070 Can we just... have a word inside? 790 00:52:17,130 --> 00:52:18,646 What's the thinking here? 791 00:52:18,670 --> 00:52:21,606 Go after Ella? Make her cry? Jury are gonna love that. 792 00:52:21,630 --> 00:52:24,106 No. I think our instructions are clear. 793 00:52:24,130 --> 00:52:25,706 Joe didn't say, "I love you." 794 00:52:25,730 --> 00:52:28,006 Ella didn't see her mum stab her dad. 795 00:52:28,030 --> 00:52:29,776 Ella is giving the jury the Joe Miller story. 796 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,506 - We need to bring it 'round. - The jury were close to tears. 797 00:52:32,530 --> 00:52:34,306 You've got absolutely no choice. 798 00:52:34,330 --> 00:52:37,176 You have to give our version to Ella. 799 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,570 Rules of evidence, Anna. 800 00:52:43,230 --> 00:52:44,506 You do it. 801 00:52:44,530 --> 00:52:47,446 - Do what? - You cross-examine her. 802 00:52:47,470 --> 00:52:50,006 That way the jury will dislike you, but they won't hate me. 803 00:52:50,030 --> 00:52:52,000 And that's something. 804 00:53:07,430 --> 00:53:09,000 Juliet. 805 00:53:10,100 --> 00:53:12,000 I'm gonna be very gentle with her. 806 00:53:12,500 --> 00:53:14,406 Promise? 807 00:53:14,430 --> 00:53:16,606 You stop me any time you want. 808 00:53:16,630 --> 00:53:18,230 Okay? 809 00:53:23,030 --> 00:53:24,646 Ms. Woolf isn't wearing a wig 810 00:53:24,670 --> 00:53:28,500 because she's a solicitor with rights of audience. 811 00:53:29,300 --> 00:53:34,306 But you must not think of her as being in any way inferior 812 00:53:34,330 --> 00:53:36,300 to Mr. Holloway. 813 00:53:38,230 --> 00:53:40,100 Yes, Ms. Woolf? 814 00:53:47,500 --> 00:53:49,400 You loved your dad. 815 00:53:50,300 --> 00:53:52,400 And... And you looked up to him. 816 00:53:53,330 --> 00:53:54,500 He was quite tall. 817 00:53:56,370 --> 00:53:57,606 You trusted him. 818 00:53:57,630 --> 00:53:59,530 He was my dad. 819 00:54:00,170 --> 00:54:03,346 You've been seeing Gillian. She's a psychiatrist, isn't she? 820 00:54:03,370 --> 00:54:04,530 Yes. 821 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,576 She's been asking you to remember good things about Joe, 822 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,200 your father. 823 00:54:10,630 --> 00:54:11,746 Yeah. 824 00:54:11,770 --> 00:54:13,576 What kind of things? 825 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,076 I don't want to tell you. 826 00:54:15,100 --> 00:54:16,246 Why not? 827 00:54:16,270 --> 00:54:18,070 They're mine. 828 00:54:19,470 --> 00:54:21,106 We don't need to know what they are, 829 00:54:21,130 --> 00:54:23,106 these good memories of your father, 830 00:54:23,130 --> 00:54:28,406 but... the purpose of recalling happy memories 831 00:54:28,430 --> 00:54:31,676 is to help you get rid of that horrible picture 832 00:54:31,700 --> 00:54:33,430 you were confronted with that night. 833 00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:35,077 Yes. 834 00:54:35,101 --> 00:54:36,976 Is it working? 835 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,546 I think so. 836 00:54:38,570 --> 00:54:42,406 So with Gillian's help, you're rubbing out the picture 837 00:54:42,430 --> 00:54:44,206 of that horrible night from your memory? 838 00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:46,800 I think we get the point. 839 00:54:50,730 --> 00:54:52,446 Were you frightened of your mum? 840 00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:54,006 No. 841 00:54:54,030 --> 00:54:55,506 Did she ever shout at you? 842 00:54:55,530 --> 00:54:56,447 No. 843 00:54:56,471 --> 00:54:58,276 - Did she hurt you? - No. 844 00:54:58,300 --> 00:55:00,630 Did she ever threaten to hurt you? 845 00:55:01,300 --> 00:55:02,676 Why are you smiling? 846 00:55:02,700 --> 00:55:04,206 I know what you're doing. 847 00:55:04,230 --> 00:55:05,376 What am I doing? 848 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,170 Copying him. 849 00:55:08,170 --> 00:55:11,770 Did you ever see your mother threaten your father? 850 00:55:12,430 --> 00:55:14,306 He said she might be violent one day. 851 00:55:14,330 --> 00:55:15,476 He said that? 852 00:55:15,500 --> 00:55:17,376 He knew about violent people from his work, 853 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,476 and he told me to tell him if she was doing 854 00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:21,376 anything she wasn't supposed to do. 855 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,106 Wasn't supposed to do? 856 00:55:24,130 --> 00:55:25,770 You don't know what she was like. 857 00:55:26,500 --> 00:55:29,570 She kept breaking things and forgetting things. 858 00:55:30,270 --> 00:55:33,200 She was hopeless. She... She wasn't safe. 859 00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:35,446 We helped her. 860 00:55:35,470 --> 00:55:37,106 You and your dad? 861 00:55:37,130 --> 00:55:38,400 Yes. 862 00:55:40,570 --> 00:55:42,006 Right. 863 00:55:42,030 --> 00:55:45,206 Um, I'm... I'm going to ask you some difficult questions now. 864 00:55:45,230 --> 00:55:46,976 It won't take long, but I-I have to do it. 865 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,076 Do you understand? 866 00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:49,570 Yes. 867 00:55:51,230 --> 00:55:56,206 I think you've been through a terrible trauma... 868 00:55:56,230 --> 00:55:58,146 and what you believe you saw and heard 869 00:55:58,170 --> 00:56:00,476 might be different from what actually happened. 870 00:56:00,500 --> 00:56:01,646 No. 871 00:56:01,670 --> 00:56:03,776 I don't think you did hear your dad say, "I love you." 872 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,476 He did. I'm not lying. 873 00:56:05,500 --> 00:56:08,246 No one's suggesting you're lying. 874 00:56:08,270 --> 00:56:11,030 You believe it was said because that's what you want to be true. 875 00:56:12,330 --> 00:56:14,200 Did you tell your best friend, Kate... 876 00:56:15,330 --> 00:56:18,400 that you saw your mother stab your father? 877 00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:20,077 Yes. 878 00:56:20,101 --> 00:56:21,646 Is that the truth? 879 00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:23,270 Yes. I saw it. 880 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,246 Will you, um, will you read this? 881 00:56:28,270 --> 00:56:29,770 Thank you. 882 00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:34,730 This is what you told the police about what happened. 883 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,470 Were you telling them the truth? 884 00:56:38,130 --> 00:56:39,107 Yes. 885 00:56:39,131 --> 00:56:41,700 Did you tell them everything you remembered? 886 00:56:42,370 --> 00:56:43,347 Yes. 887 00:56:43,371 --> 00:56:47,976 Now, is there any mention in that document 888 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,330 of you seeing your mother stab your father? 889 00:56:58,300 --> 00:56:59,800 There isn't any, is there? 890 00:57:03,770 --> 00:57:06,430 Which version is it? 891 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,570 They can't both be true. 892 00:57:13,530 --> 00:57:14,530 Ella. 893 00:57:15,130 --> 00:57:16,146 Leave her now. 894 00:57:16,170 --> 00:57:19,246 Just... Just one more thing and then I'll stop. 895 00:57:19,270 --> 00:57:23,700 Is there any mention in there of "I love you"? 896 00:57:28,070 --> 00:57:30,106 He loved her. 897 00:57:30,130 --> 00:57:31,546 I know he did. 898 00:57:31,570 --> 00:57:34,446 See, that's what happens. That's what happens. 899 00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:38,176 You want it to be true, and you want it so badly, 900 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,976 you've written it in your memory. 901 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,706 Stop. 902 00:57:42,730 --> 00:57:44,546 Mum. 903 00:57:44,570 --> 00:57:46,170 Mummy. 904 00:58:10,670 --> 00:58:13,306 I'm fine-tuned to spot a victim of abuse. 905 00:58:13,330 --> 00:58:15,776 I'm telling you... Juliet Miller is not what you think she is. 906 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,546 I've believed in you from the start. 907 00:58:18,570 --> 00:58:20,106 This is the end now. 908 00:58:20,130 --> 00:58:22,176 This is where you do it for yourself. 909 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,046 You left your 13-year-old daughter alone 910 00:58:25,070 --> 00:58:27,430 with her grievously wounded father. 911 00:58:28,100 --> 00:58:29,770 What kind of a woman are you?